China Dictatorship 中国独裁统治

No.

This is not a revenge of any kind.

Ciro knows that he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn’t like that.

But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the dictatorship.

Don’t you think it is worth a try? Destroying the firewall, would enormously benefit not only Chinese programmers, but every single other Chinese person too.

Once the firewall is destroyed, which may destroy the dictatorship, he want China to develop the best science and technology in the world, and Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China?.

And by the way, with his extensive contributions to open source software, Ciro is already helping China, and all underdeveloped countries, to become stronger. His hope is that if poor countries become richer and better educated, that they will be less likely to be influenced by the CCP’s money, and therefore are more likely to be allies of democracy.

See also: Keyword attack profiles disturb me.

Obviously not, if you even thought about this, it is likely because of: The commies exaggerate the threat of the West to keep in power.

Don’t you see that this is just pure and simple politics? And likely ineffective one at that: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall?.

Related:

A keyword consists of adding censored words to your username: https://stackoverflow.com/users/895245

This only works on websites that show usernames everywhere.

This then leads to your username appearing on thousands of pages, depending on how much you contribute to the website.

It is also possible to do it with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But:

so maybe the most effective approach is to use both keywords and images to get the best of both worlds ;-)

This type of attack is essentially an Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (禁运使独裁更强大), and it is especially effective in websites that contain valuable technical content, such as Stack Overflow and GitHub.

See also: Photobombing-like attacks.

Some people say don’t shift where you eat. Ciro says: bring a shitbucket to the canteen, and start a shitfight.

Someone told Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) a while after he had started doing his Screen name keyword attack on Stack Overflow, he didn’t know about it before, but it is basically what he was doing.

You can never invent anything new anymore nowadays!

This is especially relevant to GitHub! And GitHub’s mascot is also a cat ;-) Some mentions of this:

Related:

No, that is just a side effect.

For example, if that were the case, he would definitely target more widely used technologies, in particular Web and JavaScript, instead of obscure things like C and assembly in which I have spent tons of my time.

Also, any attempt to influence a billin people is unlikely to have any effect. Much more likely to have any effect, would be for Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever he thinks is most useful.

Actually, it can even be argued that Ciro’s somewhat irrational, since he would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead.

On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe it’s justa matter of taking a low-risk low-reward path?

Ciro has have very little free time, and he will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically.

Finally, do you really think he’d be able to do such awesome projects if he had primarily political considerations in mind? XD

Earliest sources found so far are from Reddit:

English text:

Chinese text:

Translation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/o2qyu5/china_has_a_brand_of_bread_named_stop_interfering/h2838jz mentions that this was something that came from the 2021 US-China Alaska summit

Here is a different picture of the same product from April 14th: https://twitter.com/YukayuyuWasGod/status/1382218316895244295 That one might allow better brand identification: 万X福 That one also posted at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/o2zbsw/偶然看到这张图不知道是不是真的/ Watermarked Weibo @第三豹弹

Democracy is even one of the Core socialist values (社会主义核心价值观)!

There is infinite debate about this out there, some examples:

For:

Against:

Maybe China was poor because of Mao’s crazy communist regime. Similar regimes also made Russia (俄罗斯) poor. And yes, before that exploitation by the West may have been a factor.

Definitely, the current regime is better than Mao’s, but just imagine how rich China could be if it had more freedom and justice.

Imperial China lost the race for the Industrial Revolution. Will another dictatorship be able to stay on top of the next technological revolution?

Dictatorships need Censorship (审查) to survive, and they must control all information to make themselves always look good: Would ending the Great Firewall truly end the dictatorship?.

As a result, knowledge of problems flows more slowly, and therefore they also take longer to solve.

Maybe this hurts the argument, but Hillary agrees: :-)

Also mentioned at: Google versus China - VPRO documentary - 2011

This is also the basis of a Screen name keyword attack.

This is also well illustrated in the HBO 2019 miniseries "Chernobyl", which suggests that part of the reason why Chernobyl happened is because of the Soviet Union’s obsession to save face.

This suggestion is even more explicit in the fictional World War Z 2006 novel by Max Brooks about a virus outbreak in China. It was later adapted into the World War Z (2013) movie by Paramount:

Or if you prefer:

Amartya Sen is another famous proponent of similar arguments in the area of hungers: https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/211/44284.html (archive)

although like any other political argument, some disagree.

Virus outbreaks and other natural disasters also illustrate this well: Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查).

Bibliography:

This has been discussed to death:

Some arguments include:

Of course China won’t say that they are starting a war when they do.

They will of course start with territories which they claim as theirs, to add to other recent additions which were not theirs until the recent past, even though their inhabitants desperately want to leave China:

Which reminds us of…​ Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国):

When China calls the USA Imperialist (帝国主义), there is of course some truth to it, but it is also very ironic, because as Lindybeige mentions, China is obviously the largest empire on Earth! Despite its uniformization efforts, China is highly diverse since it is obviously made up of a large stitched up carpet of nations that were conquered by a single empire. E.g. Xinjiang (新疆) translates literally as "The New Frontier"! Not to mention obviously the unification of the Warring States period (战国时期, 475-221).

When will they be ready? Who decides? What if they think that they are ready now?

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Many democracy supporters jokingly recognize democracy’s shortcomings.

A fake Churchill quote:

Art Spander:

Laurence J Peter:

This argument can be made, but it is a risky way to live: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities.

Herman Goring actually justified the atrocities of Nazism in the exact same way during his appearance on the Nuremberg trials.

Do the ends always justify the means?

What is the point of having all that wealth, when you risk being put into jail for unfair reasons?

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) argues that China would be even richer if it weren’t for the CCP: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (言论自由让中国比较富有), and that the CCP only violates people’s human rights as a tool to stay in power: Is the Chinese government evil? 中国共产党是邪恶吗？.

One of the key points of Xi Jinping’s governments has been to quench corruption. And use that as an excuse to get rid of rivals while at it.

However, there is one much better solution to that: democracy and freedom of speech.

The reason is obvious: with censorship, corrupt politicians can censor anything bad that they did, and so it becomes much harder to destroy corruption.

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Ciro does however believe the China spy stories claims made at https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/21/china-stolen-us-data-exposed-cia-operatives-spy-networks/ that the anti-corruption is also a legitimate national security issue for China, in addition to being a tool to take down political rivals:

Well known corruption cases:

Related events:

The keyword attack is basically an embargo.

There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative/Cato vs Heritage thing in the US:

The key dilemma is:

Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo:

One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under Xi Jinping (习近平, 2012-∞, Heil卐!), it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won’t become free.

Trump’s 2019 China trade war, and in particular the Huawei (华为, Chinese Qualcomm) ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again.

Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost.

The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: Why attack websites with censored keywords? 用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？

Remember that it is not possible for the Chinese government to block only certain pages of HTTPS websites due to encryption: either the entire IP/domain name is blocked, or nothing.

The 2019 996.ICU (2019) event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4

But Ciro doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely.

BTW, TLS 1.3 ENSI brings a whole new dimension to HTTPS by encrypting the domain name as well!

But isn’t it better to be annoyed than having war, being poor or put into jail unfairly?

If the truth is too much for you to bear, worry not, you can use either:

Another good option is to use the trusty CAC report website (中央网信办举报网站).

Installing any of those immediately give you 10 Sesame Points, 习万岁.

See also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? 三西猴想要伤害中国程序员吗？.

TODO study further to confirm:

Everyone is "brainwashed" by their environment.

E.g. people in the West are brainwashed to believe in democracy, freedom of speech and human rights.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) doesn’t doubt that Chinese people know more about China than him.

Saying that "someone is not Chinese, he does not understand China", is just an useless ad hominem argument and closely related to Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

Since you know so much about China, why why don’t you just actually prove your point by teaching Ciro one single interesting about China that Ciro didn’t know about? He loves learning new things.

But please, link to reference material instead of just saying it, it will be much more convincing.

But if you are Chinese, also consider that you have been brainwashed by the commies, so likely much more than Ciro since you live in a dictatorship.

See also: Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点).

First, obviously, Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点).

However, the CCP greatly exaggerates how evil the West is, because making your people constantly afraid is a classic strategy used by dictators to stay in power.

Or in fable form:

TODO source.

This theme is also highlighted in many well known works/events.

North Korea for example, China’s good and trusty friend, is just a caricatural level of this, since it manages to be more a dictatorship than even China itself!

In fiction, Nineteen Eighty-Four: A Novel (AKA "1984") 乔治·奥威尔 一九八四 (1949) is undoubtedly the most prominent example, in which the Party constantly switches from being at war with one country to the other in a never ending perpetual war (exactly like North Korea vs South Korea, or China vs Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國)).

One of the best related quotes comes in Part Two, Chapter 9 when Winston reads Emmanuel Goldstein’s subversive text, one of the chapters contains (emphasis by Ciro):

This is also the first line of the party slogan, which perfectly resonates with the CCP:

or in Part One, Chapter 3:

The theme is also mentioned in https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcoBv6ibh8M V for Vendetta (2005) "What you think will happen" scene., where a viral outbreak is used by governments to increase their power over the people.

https://youtu.be/74Mw3N6WxG0?t=174 Cant Get You Out of My Head S01E05 Part Five The Lordly Ones also (2021, BBC) mentions that a huge propaganda machinery was created to spread the fake news that Tiananmen Square Protests of 1989 (六四事件) was an evil western plot.

Duplicate pool: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Aevil-west+

Bibliography:

Ciro Santilli’s Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆), her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro’s wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor through her father’s family.

Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway.

If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Qing dynasty, like the previous Ming dynasty, used Generation names (行辈), such that the first character of the given name is the same for all people in a given generation (counted directly from the first emperor that adopted the rule.

For example, this wiki page contains a good family tree of the most important Qing people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Chinese_monarchs_(late)#Qing_dynasty and we see that many important people around 1861 were Zai 載something, e.g.: Zaichun, Zaiyi, Zaitian, etc.

The last emperor was Puyi, so Pu is the last well known mark. But there were others planned that never got used for after him as shown at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin_Gioro#List_of_generation_prefixes.

The family tree that Ciro has reconstructed orally from his mother-in-law is:

Many of them have had different names in different places/countries, notably many used the name 肇(Zhao) rather than 艾.

Further anecdotal indicators follow.

Ciro’s wife and family are clearly of the Manchu ethnicity just by looking at them, and they originally lived in the North East of China

His wife’s family name is the very unusual 艾, pronounced "ai4", which she claims is a reference to the 愛(also pronounced ai4) in 愛新覺羅, which is the name of the Manchu ruling clan of the Qing dynasty.

Ciro’s father-in-law, who he barely met, was very old when he had his daughter, and passed away before Ciro could talk a lot with him, which is consistent with the claims that he spent several years in jail during Mao’s purges, see also: Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆).

Bibliography:

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) tries to justify why he think China would be better with democracy, but I know that ultimately all of this is useless.

Everyone’s opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothing he can do to change yours, or you change his.

From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which Ciro tries to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: Why attack websites with censored keywords? 用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？.

Ciro never gets mad about China, even if your opinion is contrary to his, and therefore wrong.

Using the reply policy is one of the reasons why Ciro never gets mad.

Ciro also has doubts about the efficiency of certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ, e.g. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (禁运使独裁更强大).

Also, Ciro have never said that anyone else is wrong.

In the end, he just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to him, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China?.

The real goal of any online discussion, is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies.

Not consciously, Ciro thinks would likely support them even if I didn’t have family ties to Falun Gong (法轮功, Qigong religion).

Likely he wouldn’t have started this campaign if he didn’t know them of course.

But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively.

Wouldn’t you be rather upset if your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days?

But don’t you think that 70 million people (6% of the total population in 2000!) getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship?

Or if a Jew has escaped a concentration camp and told the world about its horrors, would you just dismiss their claims due to their biased opinion?

With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: How do you choose keywords for the keyword attack?.

If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for Xinjiang in 2019 for example, even though it only affected a measly million.

The last straw that led Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) to start the Screen name keyword attack on Stack Overflow was when on March 2015 his girlfriend’s mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing Falun Gong (法轮功, Qigong religion). He posted about this at:

He then continued because he hate political censorship, and because I love China.

Every time Ciro thinks about this, he notices how stupid humans are. We see the forest fire smoke, and just never think that it will ever reach your home on the border of the forest.

Until it actually does, and then you are really fucked.

So in a sense it was a good thing that Ciro had this little backyard fire with this mother-in-law, as it woke him up further to how serious the CCP thread was, and led him to action.

Because before that, he was one of the majority who just constantly hears about the increasing mountain of evidence of human rights violations, and does nothing about it.

The Darkest Hour (2017) film comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1Uz_TMzhs. The movie shows that Britain was truly hesitant whether to negotiate or fight Hitler, even after the Nazis had already started invading other European countries, and would clearly not stop. Luckily, we are not at a position of war yet, and might never be due to nuclear weapons. But still, a similar blindness applies. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查) woke up many people, but even then some haven’t faced it.

Ciro Santilli can understand that.

It must feel good to have absolute truth in the Cult of Xi, and let the black police get rid of weirdos for you.

But when the dictatorship turns again you our your family, will you fight, or will you just let them do whatever they want because they can never be wrong? See also: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities.

And when your son betrays you or sacrifices himself for the Dictator, will you just smile and accept it?

See: Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973)

That is definitely true.

Nothing is perfect in this world.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) just believes that they are way better than a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? 中国不是独裁！ like China, and that the Chinese government brainwashes its people to think that the West is evil to stay in power.

As Churchill once brilliantly put it:

However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that dictatorship is a better form of government is also a valid belief, e.g. Dictatorships have greater development variability.

If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request.

We will not however include events that are not currently censored.

Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not.

Posts that only mention "evil West" non-censored events without adding anything to the discussion will be marked as I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (屎帖子) and treated as such, since spamming those is the primary Wumao (五毛) technique to stop intelligent discussion.

The reason why "Evil China" posts are not shitposts in general on the other hand, is that they have one specific purpose: to destroy censorship.

This "Western censorship copypasta string" was posted automatically by a bot during r/China purge day:

See also:

Sometimes people say Ciro Santilli is naive.

Politicians are the same all over the world.

Some might have good intentions, but most don’t give a shit about anyone else.

But all must play a careful political game, and sometimes betray their own beliefs to not lose power entirely.

Even those that genuinely care might have to play such political games.

China’s problem is not its politicians.

It’s the current shitty political organization, which allows/convinces those politicians to do really bad things: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (言论自由让中国比较富有), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争？) and Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (民主国家的腐败比独裁国家少).

Western politicians don’t care about the people either: Western society is extremely unequal. But at least they have to pretend a little.

By John Kenneth Galbraith, possibly based on an earlier Soviet Union joke https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ocasio-cortez-capitalism-quote/:

The term evil does not make sense unless you are religious.

The best definition of evil is a psychopath with zero empathy for anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy although this can be better characterized as a disease or extreme personality trait.

The huge majority of those politicians are just regular dudes with a knack for politics but brought up in a fucked up political situation.

Just like you, Ciro Santilli and other politicians in any country.

See also: Chinese politicians 中国政治家.

We have to make a Xi Jinping (习近平, 2012-∞, Heil卐!) version of this!!!

There’s even an Uncencyclopedia page for it.

So, have you reached the conclusion that your shitpost is worth the risk of getting blocked?

Remember that shitposts can also be creative: if you are going to insult Ciro Santilli, at least do it in a creative way, or else you look like an even bigger idiot than you really are.

A collection of shitposts for you to take inspiration from can be found at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ashitpost+

Also, when opening a shitpost you may mark it clearly such with the shitpost issue template which automatically assigns the shitpost label. Doing so will make you look like less of an idiot.

While we require polite replies to polite posts, no matter what which side they are defending, if a post is marked as a shitpost, things are much more relaxed and fun, and you can generally get away with telling the OP to fuck themselves without getting blocked.

Feel free to do that, but no one will ever read most of it.

If you want your comment to be read, choose your key point well, and deliver it.

It is a shame that most people who are ever able to do that are shitposters, but credit where credit is due.

If you don’t know English well enough, that’s fine though, go for Chinese, Ciro Santilli will likely understand it: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? 三西猴会说中文吗？.

But if you do, use English.

Ciro is not going to learn Chinese because of your message.

It is more productive for you to write in English, so that the rest of the West can also learn something new.

Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking about, so you are better off teaching Western people about it.

Not as of 2019, he has only visited once in 2012, and it was amazingly beautiful.

But he doesn’t think it is a good idea for him to do that now, in case his Visa got accepted, because he is not interested in learning about the Chinese jail system! :-)

He knows that if you don’t mind contributing to making WW3 deadlier and shut up and obey the CCP, China is already a fine place to live as much as any other developing country.

See: https://cirosantilli.com/#ciro-santilli

And it does not matter: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

But his wife is.

As of 2019, oral enough for daily things, but not understand most natural casual dinner conversation or watch TV series, because they go too quickly into vocabulary subject areas that he doesn’t know. And obviously, using slangs just makes things really hard.

When it matters, and with some patience, he can make himself understood though with some analogies (archive) and a dictionary.

From the HSK vocabulary list, he estimates that he is definitely HSK 3, but not quite HSK 4. This would likely equate A2/B1 in the European system.

Phonetics wise, Ciro can’t distinguish or produce a few sounds, notably -ing vs -in and his off-tone rate is high, but it tends to not matter at all compared to his lack of vocabulary. Except for his mother-in-law, who sometimes does not understand it at all without correct tones!

Ciro reads with Perapera when he wants to learn new words/has patience/something is very important, and can basically understand everything in that way. TODO perapera support stopped in 2021: https://www.perapera.org/plugins/ and since browsers don’t have stable API’s it very quickly stopped working for everyone. Alternatives asked at: https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/78268/on-mouse-hover-pop-up-chinese-dictionary-browser-extension-alternative-to-perape/ Zhongwen worked, source at https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen

When he has no patience or for larger not very important chunks of text though, he reads with Google Translate as it tends to work, and then if there is an important sentence that was translated to garbage with Perapera.

Ciro writes with a mixture of Pleco, Google translate and Googling to see if Chinese actually say the sentences that way, never Google translate alone as it would be too imprecise.

Ciro really wishes he could learn more Chinese. Ciro really loves the Chinese language. But he has other more important endeavors at the moment. There simply aren’t enough hours in a day.

Spoken Chinese is in Ciro’s opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.:

and there is no useless crap like verb grammatical conjugation, grammatical gender, plural inflection, capitalization, etc. (latino sine flexione anyone?)

Ciro hasn’t tried to learn characters because too much effort, but he did learn some of the most common ones without trying.

Ciro initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to his wife in Chinese, and whenever he reaches one that he doesn’t know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 to his Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆) and then Pleco.

It should also be mentioned that Ciro also feels that it would be better if all countries more officially adopted English as an international language that everyone should learn for reasons explained at: https://cirosantilli.com/#having-more-than-one-natural-language-is-bad-for-the-world

Saying that someone is a radical is useless ad hominem.

If you want to say something useful, give specific reasons why you think one specific thing that Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) said is incorrect.

Do you consider him a radical because it is unthinkable that China is not perfect?

Or just because he’s trying to take down some more websites that your dictatorship still does not dislike enough to block: China is fine as it is, stop making it worse?

Don’t you think that it is much more radical to be put in jail for your beliefs and silenced if you disagree with anything the government says?

Ciro doesn’t think either China or West is perfect: Western media has exaggerated reports on FLG for propaganda reasons.

He’s just listing arguments why he thinks democracy is better, e.g.: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (言论自由让中国比较富有), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争？).

See also:

And Ciro never gets mad. Only a slightly sad or annoyed sometimes.

But maybe no radical ever considers themselves a radical? Hmmm…​

Or maybe: The Dark Knight - Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn?

D E E P: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/labels/you-are-stupid-argument

Feel free to publish any proof of your own incredible intelligence.

SJW: there is a seed of SJW in Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的).

One major difference between Ciro and the stereotypical SJW is that he never engage in lengthy discussions as per Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (三西猴的回答政策).

He limits himself to listening as much as he can to learn new arguments.

So the rationale of his actions is no_ to convince anyone, but rather:

See also: Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed 三西猴对中国成见很深，无法改变

On the contrary. China has his favorite:

And because of that: Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China?.

As Bjarne said:

Ciro only focus here on negative things to provide content that will activate the Great Firewall.

A small poem:

The second sentence well known: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/e8g3qv/爱国恨党love_china_hate_ccp/

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